Foreign lessors now have confidence doing business with Nigeria – Dr Harold Demuren, DG, NCAA
By UCHE USIM
Monday, July 30, 2007
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After the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) got its long-desired autonomy and subsequently scaled through International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) safety audit last year, the Director-General of the authority, Dr Harold Demuren, urged his staff not to rest on their oars as the tasks ahead were enormous.

Part of the hurdle was to ensure that the NCAA attains Category 1 status, which enables local carriers to operate in international routes, especially in the United States (US) without hassles. Another challenge was ensuring that Nigerian carriers should enjoy international aircraft financing loans from developed nations and where necessary lease airplanes outrightly without being branded operators from a nation with high political risks.

Since the domestication of the Cape Town Convention was part of the rituals needed to realize that, the restless man fought to fulfill that mandate.
Bold and blunt, the NCAA boss in his safety crusade had whipped airlines into line, warning his officers never to compromise on safety as the consequences will be unpalatable.

Just a few days ago, a four-man aviation experts from the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) concluded the preliminary audit of the NCAA and one of the airlines designated on the Lagos-US route to ascertain their readiness to attain the Cat 1 certification. Though the report of the audit is being awaited, Demuren expressed confidence that the authority will come out tops.

In this interview with Daily Sun, the NCAA DG gives details of what the US-FAA audit is all about, the Cape Town Convention and its benefits, his challenges, among others. Excerpt:
What the US-FAA audit is about
It’s a very important audit for the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) to attain the Category 1 status. The US experts are here to look at our guidelines, policies and procedures. They’ll look at how we ensure safety, issuance of safety certificates, licensing procedures and all that, just to ensure that we’re following international standards before doing our job.

They’re also looking at our enforcement and sanctions to see what we’ve done and what we’re doing in that regard. They want to know the punishment for various degrees of offence. They want to know if appropriate actions are applied to deter people from committing same offence. They also want to know what lessons we’ve learnt from accidents and measures put in place to prevent a reoccurrence. In a nutshell, they want to know how the safety oversight of the NCAA is done.
They’re here for the preliminary one after which they’ll come up with a full-blown one.

The auditors’ reaction
They were shocked at the size of the Nigeria’s aviation operation. They now know that we have 21 airports and so many airlines. They compared with other countries in Africa with most of them having one or two airports. We’ve proved to them that we now have fully autonomous NCAA that carries out its safety regulations without political interference. That’s very crucial.

The Open Skies Agreement (OSA)
What Nigeria has with the US is OSA. They’ve told me that once the audit is complete and we attain the Cat 1 status, we can designate as many airlines as possible on the Lagos-US route. It’s simply OSA. No limits. They said if we want to bring 20 airlines, that’s our business. The US is big, very big market. It’ll boost tourism and trade because America is a big trading partner of Nigeria. Why should people go through Europe to get to America? Some have no business with Europe and they’re forced to get transit visas. Look at the suffering and inconveniences at summer peak periods and Christmas? It’s uncalled for. Now, that has changed.

The near-miss incident
The Nigerian Airspace Management Agency (NAMA) has accepted our report and they’re working with NCAA safety inspectors in this regard. At this stage, I’ll have to reserve my comment because the investigation has not been concluded. Something is going on right now. We’ve spoken with both parties. We’ve seen the Air Traffic Controllers. But I can’t assure you that deep actions will be taken. After the incident, when the radar was not working, and the screens were out, what we did was to ensure that we could no longer have the radar control. What we now resorted to was manual procedural air traffic control.

Also, you’ll realize that the control towers were doing the safe tower project thing, so people resorted to using the mobile tower, which is very low on the ground. So, under such activities, you may expect such things to occur. But now, effective safety measures are now in place to prevent a reoccurrence. That’s why we’re working to perfect the TRACON project, so that we switch to it once and for all. The controllers on duty that day are also being quizzed. NAMA is looking into that and we’re working with them.

Allegation that air miss is a regular occurrence
Never! It can’t be a regular occurrence because aircraft are cleared to stay apart. That’s why they’re controlled. They can’t be on the same level. If two aircraft are cleared on the same flight level, of course, there will be a mid-air collision. But sometimes, some pilots do not keep to their call sign altitude, perhaps due to weather or something, that could cause some problem but it is mandatory and also a requirement that you must keep that so that you keep a permanent distance from other aircraft. More so, when you’re flying, you’re asked to report your position and the onus lies with the pilot to report the correct altitude of where you are.

I know that in some places, some times, there were instances where people gave a wrong position when we didn’t have a radar, so that they can land first. All that is over now because with the radar we’ll see you. The radar will show where you are on the screen. In the incident that happened, it was supposed to be two screens but because of the voltage surge, they were blown out.

Controversy over TRACON
There’s no controversy at all. What happened is that there was a trial run. The TRACON system is very big and as such you must debug such system. They’re debugging it now. It’s just been installed, so they’re testing it and once that is okay, they debug it. It’ll be deployed into full use and it comes with full band.

Airlines insisting on selling tickets in banks
You see, there is no place in this world where people go to bank counter and buy airlines’ tickets. You can show me one if you’ve seen. People are just taking advantage of our system. Let me tell you what the airlines are trying to do. They don’t want to pay commission to the travel agents and when they go to the banks, they make more money because it’s a lot of cash flow. They pay no Commission On Turnover (COT).

They pay no tax. They just walk away and transfer money out of Nigeria. What are they talking about? The problem they had hitherto was that there were some certain travel agents who were unscrupulous, who take their money away. They should ban such travel agents and that’s where it ends. It is not in the charter of the bank to sell airlines’ tickets. What they’ll tell you is that we don’t sell tickets, they only come and pay here. But there are some who’re selling tickets. Some are doing that. We can give you money now and you go there and buy tickets. What are they talking about? Some others say, "oh, we don’t take the tickets, the only thing we do is that after we had sold the tickets, they’ll go and pay money, I want my money to be safe and all that. The travel agents’ industry in Nigeria cannot be destroyed. We must protect it.

That’s our downstream sector. And when you know that the foreign airlines have cleaned Nigeria when it comes to that, then we must do something. When it comes to competition, we have not got very strong airlines like the old Nigeria Airways. That’s what is happening. It’s very important that banks stop selling tickets for airlines. They’re not ticket sales outlet for airlines. You can bank with them, but not selling your tickets.

Let me also say that there is nothing like period of grace. The airlines and the banks cannot refuse to stop that. There’s law and order in this country. If they want to test our weight, they can continue. For now, we’re talking with the banks though. There are certain airlines that do not want to contribute to this country. All they want to do is sell tickets and clean out. They don’t want to pay commission to travel agents and all that. That cannot happen in their countries. There everyone pays VAT and COT but they want to avoid that here. Banks enjoy them because of the regular cash flow and big money entering into their systems. But is that enough to allow us destroy our system, destroy our economy? The answer is no.

Challenges
One of the biggest challenges is to ensure safety. To ensure safety is not a small task. And there are lots of components in this system that you must make sure they are in place in order for aviation safety to be ensured. When we’re talking about this, we are also talking about having safety certificates issued with due diligence. That means only appropriately licensed crew who have done all necessary training, who met all safety standards should be allowed to fly aeroplanes. Every six months, they must go back and do their simulator recurrent training.

They must also do their medicals to ensure they’re medically fit to fly. The same applies to the engineers, the ATCs, cabin crew etc. Indeed, all the personnel that fly aeroplane must be appropriately licensed to do their work. Coming to the aircraft, it must be airworthy. So, appropriate maintenance must be done. I repeat, maintenance done on the tarmac with torchlight in the night is nonsense. We don’t have room for that again. That’s over. We must do the right thing. It’s very important that things are done well. Maintenance must be done as at when due. We put all these in place and that is the way to go. I’m working out a modality where we can have a safe and secured operation and yet be profitable all year round. That’s my biggest challenge.

We want a situation where we’ve a viable airline that operates safely in a secured manner with good profits. In doing this, we must get good routes for them to operate.
Shortage of manpower is another major challenge. There is shortage of manpower. Hitherto, when the former national carrier, Nigerian Airways was operational, the government spent so much money on training and we had enough hands on ground then. But since the demise of that airline, the shortage began and things have gone bad because most of the pilots you have now were from NAL. Only few hands are springing up.

We need to replenish the old hands we have now. Airlines train quite well, but never as before. Training costs a lot of money. The crew of any aircraft must observe the mandatory crew rest period. There is a limit to the priod you can use them. So, that’s why we have the shortage. We’re at present bringing in foreign pilots and engineers to make up for the shortage. Things will get bad if there is no training to replenish those on ground. Very soon, there will be no more to bring in, so what do you do?
That apart, as we train our personnel now, we have a big problem from China, India, the Middle-East and the South-East Asia.

Prosperity is smiling on them. Their aviation industry is booming seriously and as such they are ready to pay five times what we pay our people to poach them. One of them is buying 1,000 aircraft. Where will they get the personnel to fly them? So, they’re looking at Nigeria to get some hands. In Nigeria, we’re still lucky, even though it has affected us as it were. If you look at our sister countries like Ethiopia Airlines and Kenya Airways, they’re dead. The guys from the Asian countries are now coming to the two airlines to get pilots to fly their aeroplanes. They’re also looking at Nigeria, we’re now operating B737-700 and they know that Nigerian pilots are very good. If they come here to take those people away, we can’t match the price. The salaries and the conditions of service are much more better. They pay twice the salary, at times three times more.

They come home every four months and go for vacation with their wives. They ride big cars and live in big houses. So, why would they work here? In other words, there is a looming exodus to greener pastures abroad, this, we need to reverse that.
Another one is looking at cutting the operational costs of the airlines. A lot of airlines have complained about strangulating operational costs. We need to look at the charges we’re imposing. We need to balance that in the interest of safety. As far as I’m concerned, we’ve zero tolerance of safety. All other things we can discuss, but safety issues, it’s zero tolerance. When issues of safety comes up, it’s not what you put on the table for discussion. You must demonstrate strict compliance with requirements. But when it comes to the commercial aspect, we’re there to discuss.

Training more women pilots

When you look at the statistics, the greater percentage of those vulnerable are usually the men. Men, am sorry to say, are like rolling stones. They can stay here today and be elsewhere tomorrow. They don’t mind. But when you get to women, straight from the university, you train them, they get married, have children and all of that. They stay, they keep home, they don’t run around like the men. So, women are the target. They’re good investment, they’ll stay. If you train 100 men and 100 women, at the end of the day, you may lose 50 per cent of the men. Before you lose 10 per cent of women, it’s hard. That’s what everybody believes, that’s the way to go.

The Cape Town convention
The Cape Town convention that we domesticated allows us to lease modern aircraft into the country and do away with the older ones. For instance, the B737-200 is not fuel efficient when compared to the 300 or 400 or 700 series. The 200 series is what mostly we have here and the operators spend so much on fuel and that shoots up their operational costs.

Gains of the convention
Let me say this, you’ll be shocked to find out that today, Nigeria is no longer on the high political risk because of what we’ve done with the Cape Town Convention. We’re out of that list. What the high political risk means is that you won’t do business with the international community because you’re not trusted business-wise. The reason is this; when you lease an aircraft or you take or lease their equipment, they feel you can’t pay for one reason or the other. Let me say this, credit is not a sin. We take credit to do things.

But there is what we call norms of responsible behaviour. When you lease something from me, you should return it to me. You don’t lease something and go and get a court injunction and go and sleep just because you don’t want to pay back. That’s not right. Nigeria has passed that stage. Having signed the Cape Town Convention, part of the conditionality is that the DG, NCAA is empowered. So, before an airline will gain from it, it would sign. If you default, we would de-register the aircraft and ask it to leave. So, we won’t allow you to put us in trouble and that will also allow others to enjoy it. Let me ask you this. What has happened on the popular triangle-the Lagos-Abuja, Lagos-Port Harcourt and Lagos-Owerri? I call it triangle because most of the accidents that happened in the country happened on this triangle.

It’s either you’re arriving or leaving these cities that plane crash occurs. Look critically at the triangles, how many airlines do you see on those routes now? Where are the old carriers with old aircraft? They’re all gone. It’s now survival of the fittest. Now, when you travel, you see B737-300, some 400 series, some 700 series. That’s it. That’s what it should be. You now see modern aircraft. The old ones are gone. Nothing like 30-something years old aircraft again. They’re out. And that’s what we need to do to change the system. It’s very important for Nigeria. The international finance institutions are now happy to do business with Nigeria because we’re growing. That’s why we must pay glowing tribute to the aviation ministry, the National Assembly and the Presidency for assisting us get this through. This first step was the NCAA becoming autonomous. Without that, we’re dead. Foreign lessors now have peace and confidence doing business with Nigeria because they know we’ve signed the convention.

Delayed flights

If flights are delayed because of safety, I’ve no problem with that. We’ll not operate dangerous aircraft, we won’t operate an unsafe airline. If an airline has a technical problem and the flight is delayed, that’s fine. That must be encouraged. But the crew must announce to the passengers on that. That happens all over the world. My flight from the UK was delayed for over three hours because they had to change the wheels. That was okay because if it is not changed, we may have problems on landing. The landing gear may collapse, the aircraft may overshoot the runway etc. If you find a fault on the ground, while wait till you get into the air before you correct it? Correct faults you find on the ground before you takeoff because there is no parking space in the air.

But whereby the pilots do not inform passengers of any development is wrong. Now, at the airport, we have the Consumer Protection Unit (CPU) where passengers can lodge their complaints and we’ll take decisive action. We’ve also written to airlines that if you have any delay, you must relate it to the passengers. You must announce it and apologise to the passengers. They must know the cause of the delay, if is bad weather, technical etc. It’s now mandatory.

National hangar
Let me say this, I believe we need one. Whether it is government built, whether it is public/private partnership, all I know is that we need one. More so, we’re basically talking to all our airlines because that’s the way to go. Maintenance done on the tarmac at night with torchlight in the rain is not acceptable. And we’ve stopped that. We know it’s going to cost a lot of money to fly those aircraft outside Nigeria for maintenance. So, it’s very crucial that we have places to maintain these aircraft and it’s a thing that must be done in Nigeria. A hangar can cost between $10 million dollars, small one could be $5 million and it can be as high as $300 million. It depends on the size you want to build. If you want B737, it’s a small hangar, if you want to build for B777, it’s a big hangar and if it’s for B747, it’s a much bigger one. It all depends on what you want.

Some airlines have applied to FAAN for space to build their hangars. Some have been given land and they’re yet to build. Most of them are working on it. I’m very happy that most of the airlines are working on having a hangar. It’s now on the drawing board which I think it’s going to be a major plus because if you don’t do it, you have to fly out the aircraft for maintenance. By that time, you find out that it’s no longer cost effective.

NCAA enforcing hangar ownership
It’s not mandatory that an airline must have a hangar. If you want, you can contract your maintenance out and if you contract the maintenance out, that is done all over the world. But it costs you more money and it tells on your overhead if you must keep flying your aircraft out for maintenance. At least, you need a hangar to carry out routine maintenance, on schedule maintenance, defect rectification. What is helping us is that we have an Air Force hangar, where we’ve been leasing and using for some of the minor maintenance. That is really what is helping us, if not, it would have been a major disaster. Hitherto, we all went to NAL hangar but NAL is liquidated now. I believe we’ll get a good hangar very soon.

European Union blacklisting African airlines

Yes! The European Union (EU) has blacklisted some African airlines on safety grounds. Africa has a high accident rate, no doubt about that. Africa has not done well in that regard when you look at the figures. We have the highest of the records. But I must say this very clearly, half of the accidents that occur in Africa are not even aircraft registered in Africa. Those aircraft were registered in other places. They just come to operate in Africa and that is because there is no safety oversight. A lot of rubbish happen here and they crash. There are also illegal operations into Africa. They come from countries of flag of convenience. There they get dubious safety certificates, forged licences and all of that. They come around here and mess around, particularly during charter operations like the Hajj and co. That’s why you see us grounding them here and there and throwing them out of the country.

We also have our peculiar problems because airline operations in Africa can be categorized as airline operations in a depressed economy. And because of that, you hardly find brand new aeroplanes in African skies. Brand new aeroplanes cost a lot of money. In fact, our biggest challenge in Nigeria is that the flying public are not happy with us. They always say we’re flying ageing aircraft. That’s why we’ve worked on the Cape Town Convention. And I’m happy we’re making progress on that because that is actually improving now.

Flying old aircraft
The fact that an aircraft is old does not make it unsafe for flight operations. It’s good for operations as far as it’s well maintained. So, our emphasis must be that old aircraft must be well maintained. New aircraft can also crash. A good example is the Kenya Airways B737-800 aircraft that crashed in Cameroon. The aircraft was only six months old, and it took three days to locate where the aircraft was.

Fine, it had the ELT on, but the airplane went into mud. It was covered in mud. So, even the ELT could not work. I know if it was in Nigeria, I know the Press would have crucified NCAA. That tells you that accidents do occur. The aircraft in question was not a Tokunbo aircraft but a brand new one. People kept asking what could have caused that crash, but it’s still the same bad weather. I’ve told you weather can be very bad. When we held that seminar on weather, I said it clearly that we have a tropical revolving storm in Africa. This is the Gulf of Guinea. When it starts, I always say, wait and let the evil pass over, then you go. If you refuse and run into it and get into the cell, it’s going to throw you out. That happens all the time. But the fact remains that operating ageing aircraft costs more in maintenance than new ones.

Dealing with compromising safety officers
There are checks and balances in the system and that’s why we have all the audits. Because of the checks and balances we have in the system, even when you try to compromise, we’re going to catch you. Like I keep saying, it’s zero tolerance when it comes to safety. The way they can compromise is issuance of safety certificates and if you’re caught, that person is gone.

That person is dismissed. Safety certificates are not issued anyhow. So, because you’re my friend, I then give you a B747 licence when you’re not. What do I want you to do with it? To go and kill people? You should not do such things. That’s why it’s zero tolerance, you’re out and that is if the action was a honest mistake. That’s the first thing. But if we discover it was quite intentional, we would not hesitate to hand the person over justice ministry for possible criminal prosecution.


 

 

 

 

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