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kill the system, says UNILAG don
By TOYIN OSAWE
Tuesday, December 27, 2005
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Agomo
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Lining the walls of her office are pictures of different
men in academic regalia and amidst them is her own potrait,
the only woman among men. Call her a trailblazer, a record
breaker or primus inter pares and everyone of those appellations
would suit Professor C.K Agomo well, being the first female
dean of the faculty of law, University of Lagos.
As the the dean of the number one Law Faculty in the nation,
according to the NUC and Legal Education Council rankings,
she bares her mind on many burning issues of legal education
in the nation.
Didn’t see myself as Dean
Sometimes when I pray, I say to God, I never for one day woke
up and said I wanted to be Dean, you expressly told me and
other people, so, it’s your work.
As a professor, yes, that was my focus. . At the time when
I was a senior lecturer, I registered for my Ph.D and it seemed
the regulation at that time was that, if you’re on a
programme, you will not be promoted. So, I decided that though
I allowed that to lapse I’d rather work for my chair,
aiming for professorial appointment. And to God be the glory,
it came in its own good time.
NUC’s policy that only graduates will study
Law
Personally, I see it as good development. I missed three years
of education because of the civil war. So, by the time I got
into the university, I was already mature – about 19
plus. Looking back , I see it as a blessing because I could
appreciate what education was all about. As a child, I didn’t
have any vision; I just had a local vision to teach in a nursing
school, live a parochial life or whatever. I didn’t
really think far then.
Law, like Medicine, is a profession. You have power to keep
somebody alive or sentenced to death depending on your skills,
how well you master the art of your trade. I think it needs
matured minds.
In the past few weeks I’ve had cause to tell parents
that we deny our children their youths. A 15-year-old has
completed his secondary education and is ready to go into
the university, but that child is still a child! Yes, there
are a few exceptions who are matured but I don’t think
the bulk appreciates what it takes.
So, just like in the American system where you must have a
degree in liberal Arts (B.A) or related fields before you
can be admitted to read law, so also for Medicine. You must
have a first degree before you can be admitted to read these
courses. It’s a maturing process. That’s the way
I see it.
I appreciate the argument that, ‘what will happen to
those ones just coming out of school, what would we do with
them?’ Then I respond that maybe we can use pilot schemes
with first generation universities like Unilag or some others.
When we use a pilot scheme, then we’ll see how it would
work out.
University of Lagos had taken that decision many years ago.
I think it was during the IBB regime that we decided that
law will be a post-graduate course. But government later came
out with a policy that said ‘no’ to that idea.
So, if they are thinking that way, I think it’s a good
idea. But we need not come suddenly, like abolishing it throughout.
Maybe we can use Unilag or one or two other first generation
universities with an established staff record.
Some have asked me, where we will get the staff and if we’ll
have enough graduates. I tell them we have more than enough
applications from graduates. I remember in 1995/96 when I
was sub-dean, we had about 300 applications from graduates
with second class lower. Usually our cut-off is first class
and in the absence of that, second class upper, we don’t
even touch second class lower list. It’s only in the
days of discretion, that we’ll consider them. And even
because of quota we don’t take many of the second class
upper applicants. So, for us, the issue of getting enough
won’t arise. What we need is quality control, how to
maintain the standards.
Then even if we don’t see degree holders we can bring
it down to A’Levels , because that’s how it was
before and the quality was different. Before the 6-3-3-4,
it was A’Levels just like in England and the quality
was different, so we can re-introduce it for law. I still
think it’s a good development and I’m in support
of it.
Production of half-baked lawyers
I think I’ll attribute the problem to the system. We
need to go down to the educational system. Those who come
up to read Law started from somewhere. They were taught at
the primary school and secondary school before they came up
to the university. So, you cannot, in five years or four overturn
what has been faulty from the foundation. The bible says,
if the foundation be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
If the foundation is faulty, whatever you build on it will
not endure. I don’t think the blame should rest squarely
on tertiary institutions. We need to look at the whole educational
system.
6-3-3-4
I don’t think I understand it well, maybe it’s
a good idea. However, the practical application leaves much
to be desired. The six is the primary stage, the ‘first
three’(JS education), the way the scheme is devised
presupposes that some people may not go on to the ‘second
three’but to the technical schools and colleges, but
is that happening? Everybody is pushed on and the rat-race
for paper qualification continues. And that’s why you
have all these atrocities in the name of cheating just to
make the grades to enter university.
It’s a good idea but one not being practicalised. Thus
it leaves a question mark. Some people have advocated that
A’Levels should be re-introduced, that we should go
back to Upper Six and I agree with that. I recall that when
I was in secondary school, we were taught by seniors who did
A’Levels and were waiting for their university posting
which usually took about nine months. And these people were
sound.
But this 6-3-3-4, is neither here nor there. It’s like
lower six without the attendant benefiits or specifics of
upper six as advanced level and is still part of your SSCE.
So what system do you fit into, the American system? It’s
definitely not the English system.
Good students will always be good, regardless of the system
anywhere. But I’m learning everyday that it is not the
yardstick for measuring success or failure. It is the bulk,
the average students who need the right environment that should
be the yardstcik for measuring the success or failure of any
system. Look at the bulk , is it working?
Inability of law graduates to enter law school
Let me say that it doesn’t apply to the University of
Lagos. We’ve never been affected barring technical problems,
like a particular student’s result not being ready at
the time the law school list is being prepared. Everybody
who is qualified gets a form. We don’t charge a kobo
extra. We strictly comply with what the law school prescribes
and, in fact, unused forms are returned. We’ve never
really exhausted our quota.
The unfortunate incident of law graduates inability to get
into the law school has to do with over admission; exceeding
the quota. The Council on Legal Education gives the quota,
so thus the NUC. For instance, NUC gives us a quota of about
250. And you’ll discover that, by the time the students
graduate, we never have up to that figure in the final year
going to law school. We have a higher quota from the Legal
Education Council, being the number one law faculty in the
country with full accreditation by the council and NUC.
We have a higher quota that takes care of both day and evening
students and we’ve never exceeded that quota. The only
year there was a problem was in 1998 but you’ll discover
that the system has a way of easing out the problem. All of
them don’t graduate at the same time. Some are still
in the same system. Some in that set have just been called
to the bar, some are gone and some joined this set that has
just been admitted to the law school. So, the system has a
way of easing out itself. There has been no time that we had
the problem of more students than the forms made available
to us.
Thus a situation where a faculty has a quota of 60 and you
admit 400, 300 or 200, where do you think those extra would
go? Then ask the qusestion, who is to suffer. So there must
be a way to solve the problem.
But I always tell my student that I am here for them. Let’s
both accept our responsibilities. You as a student should
accept your responsibility. And we the teachers accept ours.
Let us learn to do what we are supposed to do, when and how.
Let’s not keep parrying it off, looking for the gremlins;
it’s somebody’s baby not mine. If we’ve
gone wrong, then let’s face it. Let each faculty, each
university go back to the drawing board. Like the NUC directive
says, if you admit one extra over your quota your accreditation
will be withdrawn or you will not be given at all.
The pressure is so much in the system that everyone wants
their children to read law. They keep pleading that their
children should be admitted. Thank God we don’t have
discretion anymore, since 1999, so the issue does not arise.
All we have to say is, ‘sorry there is no discretion’.
We operate merit within merit, National merit is 45 per cent.
Merit in catchment (that is the six geo-political zone), western
states that form the catchment area of the University of Lagos.
You take the number one assigned to these states, then you
take the educationally less developed states. So it is merit
within merit. That’s what we’ve been operating
since 1999 when this present government abolished discretion.
So we don’t have that problem of over admission, thus
no problem of backlog.
10 year ban on the establishment of law faculties
This is about the second year of the ban. And as a member
of the council, I wouldn’t say the council was wrong
even though I wasn’t a member when the decision was
taken. But I’m bound by that decision because by virtue
of the fact that I’m Dean, I’m a member of the
Council on Legal Education.
But I want to say that establishing a law faculty is not a
joke. It takes much setting up a law faculty or College of
Medicine and Engineering. It is not just a question of I’m
setting up a law faculty. It takes much to establish a law
faculty, to equip a library, the offices of the lecturers
and so on. I think it is something that could be reviewed
from time to time. In terms of capacity of the institution,
manpower, do you have the qualified staff, or the facilities?
I think these things should be looked at before you talk of
establishing a law faculty. Some institutions like Covenant
University , which is coming up to be the best, they don’t
have a law faculty and I don’t know if they are agitating.
You can understand if Babcock is agitating because it had
been there before the private universities came. It had been
established and if it decides to start a law faculty today,
I don’t think it won’t be able to carry it through.
I think when the time is ripe, it is something that should
be looked at on individual basis. Look at the capacity, the
ability, the facilities and the funding. Establishing a law
faculty is not a joke. The mere fact that a new university
comes on board should not automatically translate to a law
faculty being established.
If you go abroad, institutions specialise. They look at their
locality, their strenght, the area where they’ll be
able to make more impact and concentrate on those areas. Nevertheless
, when the time comes for the policy to be reviewed, it should
not be a blanket thing. It should be according to the need,
what each faculty has. It should be accredited from time to
time to know whether the university has what it takes to establish
and sustain it, make it viable. This is purely my own personal
opinion, not an official one because I am in no position to
give one.
2005 universities ranking
Though there are many criteria, it is sad that no African
University made the top 200 of the world’s best universities.
What we need do is to look at those criteria and ask ourselves,
how come no African university made it? What can we do to
get there?
Universities don’t exist in isolation. They are part
of the general society. For example, we talk of infrastructure,
facilities, basic things like electricity. For example, we’ve
done our local area networking here. We’re already on-line
but it is the dial-up system. We want to use optic fibre,
VSAT or whatever, so that we can have unrestricted research
access and subscribe to on-line journals so that we can be
up- to- date, up- to -world standard. But how many times do
we have electricity supply? And that is a basic facility we
need.
There are so many other things – talk of over admission,
overcrowding, underfunding, etc. If you go to the hostels,
what facilities are there? How up to date are our libraries?
Some are trying but do we have the funding to sustain them?
So it’s a general policy which boils down to the policy.
The isssue of educational policy comes up. Is it really a
priority in this country? If it is a number one priority,
things will change, though not overnight. It is about setting
goals and following them. Like when we talk about the 6-3-3-4
system, at the technical education level we need to put things
in place so that people can find where they belong. So, there’s
no reason why in a few years we can’t get into the ranking.
But we need to do the first things first.
A child does does not get up today and start running tomorrow.
You can’t compete unequally. For example, a child from
a poor home, who hardly gets a square meal a day, no books
and you expect him to come and compete on equal terms with
the child that has all the comforts and facilities at his
disposal. There is a basic inequality there.You must be able
to to bring that child from the deprived, underprivileged
background up to some minimum acceptable level for that child
to compete favourably. So we must be serious in our thinking
towards education. I don’t think the government has
the capacity to fund education 100 per cent.
Free education will kill the system
There must be some contribution. I always say this, we are
ready to pay so much for our children to go to private nursery,
primary and secondary schools but when it comes to university(tertiary),
we start singing free education and it does not make sense
to me.
Of course, we always talk of disparity in the system. In the
70s, I wasn’t in the country but I know there was a
system of the Students Loan Board and that is what is sustaining
education abroad. In places like the US and the UK, education
is not free. In the US, when a law graduate leaves the university,
he is indebted maybe to the tune of about 80,000 dollars.
But the student had the facility to acquire that education
and of course will have the ability to pay back. A medical
student will be indebted much more.
In the 70s people were able to go through the system by obtaining
a loan from the students loan board, scholarship boards and
so on. It is a question of putting in place the facilities
to make everyone compete.
Poverty will always be there, it had been done before. Everyone
talks about sharing the national cake but nobody wants to
know how it is being baked. The whole system needs to be overhauled.
For instance, the tax sytem, how many people are actually
paying tax. We are in the system and our tax is deducted using
the PAYE system but what of the businessman that earns millions?
How much does he pay or does he even pay? In the US you see
what happens with tax evasion. When they catch you, you’re
in for it – both the high and low. That’s what
happens in the UK and other advanced countries. It is from
the tax that they provide all these basic infrastructure for
these institutions to make them work.
So, before you say, pay fees, you must ask how are we going
to cater for those who are brilliant but without capacity
to pay.
There must be structures on ground to take care of those people.
There’s no how government can fund education 100 per
cent and there is no how a university’s internally generated
income will bridge the gap. Talk of hostel accomodation, the
students pay N90 but you’ll be amazed at the sums being
bandied around by the same students who paid N90. It is all
hypocrisy. Let’s be honest.
This is the area we need a parents forum. Let’s talk
about it. Let’s understand ourselves because the problem
is communication breakdown. Let’s keep talking. It is
not something we slap overnight. We need to ask ourselves
what do we input into the system and what do we want out of
it? How do we bake the cake? We should talk about that before
we talk about how to share. We all must accept that we are
part of this enterprise called Nigeria. We are the government
– you and me. Let ‘s stop talking about government
as Aso Rock and personalising it as Obasanjo. Like I always
tell my people here, they are institutions – when I
leave, the office stays.
But we need to sustain it. Whether or not it is going to be
healthy or continues depends on what we put into it and how
we see it and relate to it. So sooner or later we need to
face the issue of fees. We must talk about it objectively,
honestly, not using it as a gimmick, not being afraid.
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