From Uche Usim, Abuja

Dr Abraham Nwankwo, the Director General/Chief Executive Officer of the Debt Management Office of Nigeria (DMO) has been in the news lately. He is read and heard almost on a daily basis for endorsing a  contentious $29.96 billion loan Nigeria seeks from a catalogue of offshore lenders.

While some analysts pick holes with the proposed loan,  especially coming at a time the country was in recession and heavily burdened by  an existing N16 trillion debt stock it is battling to service, the DMO boss says the facility remains a sound vehicle needed to transport Nigeria  out of the current economic imbroglio.

He described those calling the loan a debt trap as being  illogical, even as  he insists Nigerians need not lose sleep over the matter as  the 2016 debt  sustainability analysis carried out by his office shows that  various programmes of the incumbent administration were capable of  servicing all  the debts.

In this interview, he speaks on the loan and the nation’s  economy in  general.

Nigeria’s debt profile

Our total debt stock as the end of June 2016 is N16 trillion,  which is  12.24% of our GDP and so we will continue to emphasise that  relative to our GDP, we are very comfortable. But we also accept that we  have a challenge  with our domestic debt service because of the high cost of  funds  domestically, which is one of the reasons there is need  to borrow  comfortably if we must borrow. It is necessary for us to see how much we can conveniently borrow from external source since that will  help reduce  the domestic cost of funds because when the demand from the  domestic market by government drops, it means whatever resources are available is there for  the private sector and because the demand pressure is lower,  the cost will  be lower too. That’s one of the strategies of government.

That’s one of the  reasons borrowing from the external source is  encouraged.

People always say if you borrow from external sources, how  will you service  external debt? In our view, you go borrowing to turnaround  the economy, to  have efficient rail and road transportation, efficient and  reliable power supply. That’s why we’re borrowing. We are not borrowing for  borrowing sake. You want to transform the economy by covering the  infrastructure  deficit, if you do that, the cost of production in the economy will fall,  so beyond inflation and all those issues like infrastructure  deficiency, we will deal with them. Moreover, if you have sufficient  infrastructure, it  helps to diversify both export and domestic supplies. We  import most of our  goods some of which we produce locally but the imported ones are cheaper  but if the cost of production falls because of reliable and  efficient  infrastructure, the cost of production falls so the final  products from Nigerian factories will be low. So Nigerians can now buy the  lower one so  that boosts the economy.

On the other hand, the fact that you’re producing  competitively at cheap cost  here means you can even export even beyond West Africa  because you can now  compete just as China is producing at cheap prices and  bringing them here.

We can also produce at cheap price and sell to other  countries so when you start exporting to other countries, of course, you will start  earning more  foreign exchange. So, if you’re exporting five or seven  products, in addition, you are exporting, maybe, three, four or five solid  minerals, which  belong essentially to government.

Is $29.96bn loan a debt trap?

The first thing to note is that this borrowing is normal. Normal in the  sense that over the past 20 years, there is no year we have  not borrowed. I  am not aware of any year in the past 20 years that Nigeria  has not borrowed. So, interpreting the proposal submitted to the  National Assembly  by Mr. President for a three-year borrowing programme to be an indirect way  of trapping the country does not seem to be logical because Nigeria has  always borrowed every year.

So,  there is nothing new about this. Let me also emphasise that since we exited  from the Paris and London club debt in 2005-2006, we have always borrowed  almost from all these sources we want to borrow from now. It  was the  Chinese loan that financed NIGCOMSAT more than seven years  ago. The medium term external borrowing programme is also  not new. I am  sure that by next year it would be represented because 2016  would have been  exhausted completely and a new rolling plan will come in.

That’s why it is  called a rolling programme. It is part and parcel of the  total fiscal  framework because fiscal framework includes the medium term  expenditure  framework, which explains how you will fund the expenditure  over the medium  term and one of the items for funding expenditure over the  medium term would be the financing item, which is the borrowing and that  has always been  there. This is to confirm to you that there is nothing  specially new about  this borrowing proposal, which Mr. President has placed before  the National  Assembly. It’s a normal procedure for funding the  development of the  country.

Benefits of earlier loans like NIGCOMSAT

NIGCOMSAT is too abstract for the man on the street, so I  won’t want to use that because it is about satellite imaging and ordinary  Nigerians cannot  appreciate it. I would rather talk about something more  straight forward.

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You are aware, for example, that the Nigerian airports are  being remodelled; new terminals are being built in almost all parts of the country. These are  being done with borrowed money. Over the past four or five  years, the Abuja  Airport road was expanded from four lanes to ten lanes and  same with  Abuja-Kubwa-Kaduna road. These two projects were actually  funded with money borrowed domestically. You are aware that the Nigerian rail  lines are being  resuscitated with new locomotives purchased, and Lagos,  Ibadan, Kano rail  line  has been fully resuscitated. These were done with  external borrowing.

These are some of the examples and on routine basis and on a  permanent  basis, you are aware of the various agricultural projects  some mainly  funded by the World Bank and some of them in some areas are  called FADAMA. Some of them are still existing in all parts of the country.

All those  projects are funded with borrowed money. You are aware of  the Polio Eradication Programmes (PEP). Those are funded with borrowed money from IDA  in particular, that is the concessional window of the World  Bank. You are  aware of the various water supplies that are also funded  with money borrowed from the multilateral sources. So, these are some  of the major  popular projects that we have said but in general all the  moneys borrowed  from external sources are projects tied. Let’s use a good  example of the  World Bank. You are aware that the World Bank cannot give  you a loan  without supervising it themselves, that is the system. They  must supervise  it themselves and they must have people working with the  Nigerian team to  monitor the project from the beginning to the end and they  don’t just  disburse the money and walk away, they disburse the money as  the work  progresses. So, even when Nigeria seeks for a loan and it is  approved, the  disbursement of the loan is done according to the schedule  of the work  itself.

 Misappropriation of former loans

Very good observation. The two things to say about that is  that, first,  there is no doubt that Nigerians are right in asking  questions and getting  concerned about value for money and about how we get  proceeds from what we  use. The concerns are valid, correct and appropriate. Nobody should doubt that and the important thing to say is that in every system where there is  a failure, there are people responsible for tracking why there is failure  and for doing the monitoring for effective and appropriate  sanctions if  there are needs for sanctions. So, that is what I can say  about that. I am  not going to say everything has been perfect, if everything  has been  perfect, Nigerians  wouldn’t be concerned. Nigerians  are reacting based on  the experience of many years and they are right to be  concerned and also  right to ask questions and indeed Nigerians and including  the journalists  should feel free to confront relevant agencies and MDAs responsible for  such projects because every project has an MDA that is  responsible for it.

However, it is also appropriate to recognise that we have an  opportunity that is very different. We have a government, a president  whose  administration is founded on transparency, accountability and anti-corruption, which means we have a greater chance and we  should have  more confidence that resources, revenues as well as loan  proceeds will be more efficiently and accountably used. It will not be  siphoned through  corruption. Having said that, we will make sure that all the  various  apparatus available for monitoring, for making sure that resources are well  used should be put into effect. We cannot afford this time  around to  experience wastages. So, the government agrees with the  Nigerian people  that we cannot afford to continue wasting resources.

Worry over debt servicing capability 

Why not? The government is worried about debt servicing. But  what you  should be asking is if we are managing the debt. The essence  of managing  our debt is to know if we service the debt and that is why  we do debt  sustainability analysis, which we have done for 2016 and for  every year. It  is because we are concerned about our debt that is why we do  it and the  result made available to the public. Everything the  government is doing is  within the scope and recommendations of that analysis.

Certainly, every  government and debt manager is interested in knowing whether what it  borrows, it is in a position to service it. From analysis,  programmes of  government, we know we can service our debt. Ever since we  exited from Paris  and London clubs debts, we have never defaulted in servicing  our debt  whether external or domestic. We have managed our debts  prudently, that  doesn’t mean we are not in a position to improve. There is no country that  has any system that is not improving. So, we are not  saying that we  have arrived at the peak, we are still improving. But, you should also give  us the credit that Nigeria’s public debt service management  is among the  most respected in the world in terms of what they do and how  they do it. I  assure you that the proposal, which Mr. president has put  before the National  Assembly for external borrowing has taken into account  Nigeria’s ability to  service the debt; taking into account that those external  borrowings are at  very affordable interest rates. Most of them are below three per cent  per annum and all  of them range between 15 and 30 years in tenure and their  moratorium range  between five and 10 years. So, those loans are at relatively  concessional  terms. Talking of debt service, one of the reasons they  tilt to  external borrowing is because compared to domestic borrowing, they are much  cheaper. They are at least seven per cent cheaper than domestic  borrowing, which means  when you look at their tenure and the interest rate, it  means that their  impact on debt service will be minimal per annum so they are  even more serviceable.

Loaning to heavily indebted states

That is not the way to look at it. You are not giving them a  loan. We’re  talking of an economy you want to develop. The economy needs infrastructure, basic education, rural water supply, etc. If  a state in the  Federal Republic of Nigeria is having a fiscal challenge and  they also need  water supply for their people, you wouldn’t encourage them  to have water  for their people? Then that is not development. So, the fact  that you have  a problem doesn’t mean you have to run away from your  responsibilities.

Nigeria is one economy and, as you know, in addition to existing  procedures, the minister of  finance has taken  the initiative to see what  can be done for states’ fiscal position to get better in  terms of the fiscal  sustainability plan.

Advice to reform

We don’t need them to tell us before we carry out our  reforms. Our reforms  are ongoing and we are maintaining the momentum of fiscal  reforms like the  fiscal sustainability plan, the establishment of the  efficiency unit to  improve efficiency and all that. There’s also the  presidential initiative  on continuous audit. These are reforms. So, we know we must have reforms and the reforms are ongoing. So, whether our friends ask us  how far we are  doing or not, we know we need reforms and we have been doing reforms and will continue doing reforms because we know we need them. We  are also doing  structural reforms, this is to assure you that the Nigerian  government and  people know that we need reforms and we are going ahead to  carry out these  reforms for our benefit.

 Federal character in resource allocation 

What we should ask ourselves is what is the procedure? Apart  from the  nationwide projects, the state by state original projects, what determines  it? The procedure is that every state knows the normal procedure because no  state in Nigeria is a new state. States have always borrowed  externally, so they know the process. For example, if you want to borrow  from the World  Bank for agriculture, you would approach the World Bank’s  local office in  Nigeria to know what kinds of loans they have for agriculture or for water  supply or for health and based in those preliminary  discussions, the state will relate with the international economic relations department of the  ministry of finance. And based on the guidelines of both the  World Bank as  lender and the International Economic Relations Department, which is the  Federal Government agency they begin to articulate and  aggregate these  things. It is demand-driven. All I can say about  that if there  are states or regions that believe that they have been  excluded what we should do is find out from them whether they submitted  proposals to both  the creditors as well as to the International Economic  Relations Department  of the ministry of finance and those proposals were not  considered.